Clan Rankings now oneline, PLUS...NEW rule change

Jun 6, 2014 15:25:47 GMT wittyscorpion said:

Great, they finally made this info accessible through regular web pages. Should have done so a long time ago.

The DLP drop is a good idea IMHO. Active clans will not be affected much, while inactive clans will drop off much faster. This is a simple way to keep the leaderboard more fresh.

It's actually not Beachhead doing it. It's a 3rd party individual. It's 'Lifesong' from the Activision Message boards. I do not believe he has any affiliation with Beachhead Studios? Maybe I am wrong? I think Lifesong has stated in the past, he has no affiliation.

While I don't necessarily think the idea is good or bad (I'm still trying to feel it out)...right now, primary thoughts are it feels like it's a waste of time. They could be addressing more important matters, and instead spent what appears to be a few weeks putting in this new idea, what is a success tax.

And that's what this is. A success tax. Look at us. We lost 31pts with this new tax. About 1/3rd of our winnings.  How is this going to affect in-active clans or motivate them? A low end Diamond clan that has 70 pts right now, skipped last CW, is only going to get penalized 3pts. They'll drop from 70 to 67pts. In effect, after this tax goes in, it will help them out, and reduce what lead we earned on them.

Jun 6, 2014 16:34:46 GMT wittyscorpion said:

Percentage is definitely a weird move. Looks like they are trying to make the leaderboard closer than it actually is, instead of what I thought the intention is (move inactive clans down the board faster). I was expecting a fixed DLP drop across all clans, say 100 DLP / months.

Not surprising though, if the goal ActiVision wants Beachhead to achieve is to attract more players to play Ghosts. In terms of player engagement, Ghosts is probably the worst of the entire CoD series, at least in the recent years.

Well, Felix claimed that the intention was to move in-active clans down the board...AT A FASTER RATE. But this was a curious response...

1. It's an ever diminishing drop to those inactive clans, as the lower you go, the lower the 'tax' applies to you. That made a bit more complicated by the fact that the winnings are a fixed total. So a 1,000 DLP clan will lose 50pts to the tax. That's almost 40% of their winnings. Meanwhile, how much is this tax going to force down a cellar-dwelling clan at 100 DLP? Their penalty is only 5pts and they will drop to 95 dlp. It will be the year 2056 by the time they get to zero. So this makes no sense.

2. Felix also said that this won't help them in the pool seeding process. So again, what good is it?

Jun 6, 2014 16:53:08 GMT wittyscorpion said:

On the bright side: this could potentially help us move up faster, provided we keep winning.

The only thing that stays consistent in this game, is that the rules change every CW.  Making this a complex game to play (and follow_  And with that, we don't miss much in that department. We tend to be on top of stuff.

Jun 6, 2014 17:12:01 GMT wittyscorpion said:

As we move up, we are probably going to face tougher opponents. The war before the last we had a very easy pool, in the one we just had the pool is tough but the opponents are not savvy on Clan War strategies, so in the next one we probably are going to face tough and smart opponents.

We really did outsmart/outplay those clans in that last clan war. Looking back, I even wonder if they fully understood the changes Beachhead did with the node hold bonuses on the 3rd day?

Jun 6, 2014 21:08:05 GMT rangerone said:

It seem to me if they were really trying to move inactive clan down the board shouldn't this degradation of points only apply to this clans that don't participate in CW. Doing this to clans that ARE active is like being punished for the doing the right thing. I wonder if BH really thinks any of this stuff through.

the scary part is that it appears they have thought about this.

Today, they did come online and talk to about twelve of us. That is, twelve clans or so appeared to be involved in the conversations on Twitter. (if you look at my feed, you can track most of this down) I got to ask questions to Felix and Trey. I think I have bugged them enough they might sort of know who i am now (unlike Lethal Gaming, who is on a first name basis with them). Other clans asked questions too. All in all, Beachhead took the time to answer most all of questions, just not in great detail. They have stated reasons for doing what they did. And it appears they did put a lot of thought into it, ....it's just (and this is from my vantage point), their reasons make no sense.

I see what they are trying to do, but it doesn't seem like the best solution.

They also hinted at a lot of new stuff coming soon.

Last comment here....these guys at Beachhead put some serious work into this. I don't ever recall in my entire CoD history seeing a company like this working with CoD, doing this much interaction with clans & players,  or ongoing tweaks and additions to the game. I like Beachhead for the most part.